07-23-2018, 04:56 PM
(07-23-2018, 01:35 PM)Orion link Wrote:i really enjoy this idea, both from a staff and personal point of view. as of right now, we need that group that is willing to bring the dark vibes and dirty work upon the table, so i look forward to having this added to the animal group suggestion thread so we can possibly make it a board.
the only thing i would advise is making sure that when cullings happen, the roleplayers have said that it is okay to kill their character, otherwise it's powerplay.
Thanks Orion! and of course! everything would need permission and be sorted out OOCly so no one just gets killed on a whim for being inactive too long etc, since I'd be sure to ask c:
(07-23-2018, 02:18 PM)galexiux link Wrote: I feel like this is a very strong start to a world development. Despite being dark and, personally, not for me, I reminds me a lot of early southern american cultures like the Aztecs in their way of living and traditions. Something I’d like to note to maybe bring to your attention is the correlation between their violent tendencies and living in the dark. At least for humans, the sun supplies a huge amount of Vitamin D to us. Vitamin D (i think) has been correlated with a person's ability to be happy. The fact that they live entirely underground could be a cause for their violent and snappy nature. Just a thought. Im slightly concerned over the whole “joiners are hard to join” for if this were to become a group, it can drive away newer players. I understand your going for a whole “ic challenge” vibe, which i can get behind, but you still want to make it accessible for newer players. Don’t make your clan a popularity contest behind whos been there the longest. As Orion said, be sure to get permission with each and every character you guys will harm or slay otherwise its rule breaking. In fact, if this were to be a huge part of the clan, I suggest making an official post keeping track of them all. A simple forum people will have to submit for each successful attack. A like… ‘character name, character injured, thread link, screenshot of permission” sorta thing could go a long way. The whole slavery deal personally puts me very on edge, but i suppose if you want to put that in, you can. I personally don't see a ton of people lining up to play as a slave character though, lol. I can see the clan becoming successful as a catalyst to form trouble and chaos in other clans. They can balance eachother out.
forgive me if I miss bits, big blocks of text make my eyes skip a lot tbh aha, but I'll do my best to address this one and then the following, First though thanks for the praise! (and the coming secondary critique! c: )
- correlation on the darK; ooo thats a hood point - and while they do have one or two open areas MUCH nearer the borders so as to not infringe on security/secrecy, this is a very good point on what influences there behaviour, thanks for mentioning that c:
- on the newplayers: no need to worry friend! I planned to write a sorta 'newbies/new joiners need to know' thread so I can explain bits and point out such and such so as not to allow newcomers to feel singled out or run off due to the nature of the clan - and like I said above, everything would be with permission c: (I might add a note that bringing gifts of gold or proving yu are no friend to other clans or smthn would probablly ease the way or smthn hmmm)
- thread hub: not sure if we would for ordinary ones but for contest ones and big raids etc possibly - maybe also an attack directory for anyone wanting to join a band currently attacking or they need reinforcements etc.
- slaves: oh this isn't a huge main thing, just that it DOES exist in the clan, its there for ostly NPC slaves r if peeps DO want to end up a captured slave (that maybe eventually escapes and earns that kill tag on their head etc) or play a slave in this culture (who knows maybe they get enough by they become seen as an 'unblooded' instead in a plot or some such) - these are all things to add to the group's wrld and give more plot fuel.
(07-23-2018, 02:18 PM)galexiux link Wrote: This group idea slightly troubles me. I’m all for dark plots, but I’m scared of this sorta becoming a hotspot for tons and tons of dark characters. Negativity feeds off more negativity. That much dark energy in one place is bound to attract some weird characters. I fear it becoming the early Exiles back on Feralfront. It was just… a place with constant torture threads and raid threads. There are ways to make dark and aggressive groups without going directly to the “blood and murder” ideals. My biggest fear is the players over the actual group itself. I feel like the group is a very interesting concept but I also feel it would need a lot of attention OOC’ly. If the current leader was willing to study the traditions and ideals of the clan, I feel it will do amazing. I’m excited to see it. But… I fear a leader that only puts up meetings and never plans anything (cuz there are some leaders like that. They’re rare but they’re there). The group’s rich history and ideology will fall to ruin and basically become the exiles 2.0. I feel anything in fictional writing should come with a cause vs effect outlook. If [leader] runs clan smoothly with dark traditions > clan is in track. If [leader] is unsupportive of developing clan and traditions > characters will try to do it themselves uncoordinated and things fall apart.
Plus, I personally think the slave thing is going a bit too far. I love dark capture plots as much as the next guy but… slavery rubs me the wrong way. It doesn’t feel right. Maybe if this site had a more mature audience but it is 13+... Also another thing to consider. Why are they killing so much? To please the gods? To please the gods why? With my Aztec example in my review above, the aztecs sacrificed because they believed if they didnt, the sun would die out.
Over all. Even if I personally won’t be joining, I am excited to see this group if it were to come to the site. I feel with proper care and attention, it can be an amazing hotspot for development and conflict. I just have a few concerns about it such as potential bad leadership, influxes of darker “uwu kawaii killer” (for lack of a better term) characters and the whole… slave ordeal. Hopefully my thoughts can help you in some way and I’m excited to see what you do with it c:
again thank you for the critique, I'll do my best to address points
- Dark characters/MURDER DEATH ideal: yes this is true, but in truth this is what this clan is mainly for, an area where those who want to play darker characters can and have some room to play in this sandbox BUT that doesn't mean everything is 'murder/death' all the time, they're hostile and insular yes but that doesn't mean to say they can't get along or do menial things like a hobby of reading - plus theres a lucrative mining industry, religion and festivals for the gods other than the mre bloodier ones because for all they are harsh (and there is a backstory there on why) they do celebrate ideals like Life, Strife, Death, Renewal, New years and such (but the holidays would have different names here) - you can be a dark character and fit in true, but you can be a fluffy bunny who's the darling of the clan's people even though said people might appear vicious beasts to anyone outside the group, their is no law against things being not grim c:
- ON the culture/ideals and such: i WILL be doing my best on that even if there are days where I can't post, I do plan to be around and like said above, I'd likely share the burden if need be - but on the culture/ideals you needn't worry too much as I have a whole list about festivals/traditions/ideals/codes that I'm hashing out for them because i WANT this group to stand out and succeed - and yes the mythology and history is gonna get a very in-depth look i'll likely keep adding to. point being even when I step down at whatever time there will be ground work and a clear picture for anyone after me.
ahhhh also thanks for the excitement! I'm a lil nervous but looking forward to getting in-depth with it c:
- on characters trying to take it back from an unsupportive leader: well NOW we gonna get some history there in this clan's lore but yes, I would fully endorse a clan uprising against a leader in such case, possibly something of an upheaval given the whole 'leader seen as divine' and thus would probably create a lotta plot fodder for the chars that'd be much more religious but still seeing they must do so etc - in the history there will be mentioned of such an uprising in itself.
- on the slave thing: well it will be strictly only on labour/menial tasks and nothing else, again it might not even come up in plot but its just an established area in the lore if someone does want to tackle that in a plot or such - but i'm fully open to missing it out entirely if those interested in the clan want a vote on it yaya/or nay like.
- sacrifices, yes indeed it IS to please the gods and yes there is lore for each god already in base notes, i simply didn't outline everything here because I wanted to get a base iddea out to see if it garners interest but yes, each god has sacrifices and not necessarily are all bloody - but there will be lore about WHY they do such and WHY they worship these gods and how the religion came to be etc.
thank you for your words and critique - and undoubtedly there will be 'that character archetype' because, well, there always will be on any site tbh but I do want to build it up and give it enough life that any leader onwards would be able to follow easily etc and that interesting characters CAN develop - and that this place will be the cause of strife for the other clans because we do need just a true chaotic clan in my eyes.
plus I've always liked making the more lore driven stuff cx
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