07-18-2018, 12:18 AM
aa so this is a little off topic but I wanna just put this out here as like a warning I guess?? sorry if it's a little blunt but I'm not sure how else to put this.
So I've never seen huge, complex lore work out well on an rp site. I've been on a few that've tried it in the past and it usually ends up having tons of continuity issues and problems in the long run due to being restrictive and things like that. I think having a map is good, I think having the reason for the fallout is good, and I think having a set of simple rules is good. However, anything beyond that (like adding a more complex history not created by the rpers) usually makes things way more confusing rather than clearing anything up. It makes it hard for people to jump in and makes it hard to create characters because there's so much restriction. This isn't always the case but I would say it is most of the time.
That doesn't seem to be the direction we're going in but I just wanted to give that warning. Once we start adding our own lore and creatures and things like that that aren't just created by rpers, you're making another thing on a guide that someone will have to read and keep track of and follow, which will make things more difficult. For that reason, I am strongly against any sort of super complex lore beyond the basics (basically what we absolutely need to know) for human rp. The more open we are, the better off we'll be. As time goes on, the rp will create it's own lore but it has to be open enough for people to do that to begin with.
Due to that, I think our best bet is to have a simple post ap. world that somehow gets destroyed and has powers added (via biotechnology, some kinda rift thing, it really doesn't matter as long as the explanation is simple), and then we let people out into the world. It's assumed that it had the same history as Earth up until the deviation of these events, to make it easy to reference past events and locations, and everything is relatively easy to follow. Because powers are available, so is the interpretation of sci-fi and fantasy elements in various groups, which allows for as much freedom as possible. As long as you can get it in the shop or it's an element established in the simple lore, you're free to use it as a new group or character. Keeping this simple and easy to understand is the key. Anyone should be able to read any guide and have a decent idea of what's happening without too much confusion or having to constantly reference other guides for a complex history they need to keep track of.
Again, that doesn't seem to be the way this conversation is going but I just get nervous because I've seen so many sites try to do some huge lore and everyone puts in so much work but things like that really aren't super effective in the long run due to continuity problems and how difficult it is to get into, no matter how interesting the base concept is.
I also agree that throwing out ideas is the best thing we can do right now! We can gather them all here and then properly vote on them to make actual decisions! There's no way with this many people that we'd actually be making decisions in a discussion chat like this tbh.
So I've never seen huge, complex lore work out well on an rp site. I've been on a few that've tried it in the past and it usually ends up having tons of continuity issues and problems in the long run due to being restrictive and things like that. I think having a map is good, I think having the reason for the fallout is good, and I think having a set of simple rules is good. However, anything beyond that (like adding a more complex history not created by the rpers) usually makes things way more confusing rather than clearing anything up. It makes it hard for people to jump in and makes it hard to create characters because there's so much restriction. This isn't always the case but I would say it is most of the time.
That doesn't seem to be the direction we're going in but I just wanted to give that warning. Once we start adding our own lore and creatures and things like that that aren't just created by rpers, you're making another thing on a guide that someone will have to read and keep track of and follow, which will make things more difficult. For that reason, I am strongly against any sort of super complex lore beyond the basics (basically what we absolutely need to know) for human rp. The more open we are, the better off we'll be. As time goes on, the rp will create it's own lore but it has to be open enough for people to do that to begin with.
Due to that, I think our best bet is to have a simple post ap. world that somehow gets destroyed and has powers added (via biotechnology, some kinda rift thing, it really doesn't matter as long as the explanation is simple), and then we let people out into the world. It's assumed that it had the same history as Earth up until the deviation of these events, to make it easy to reference past events and locations, and everything is relatively easy to follow. Because powers are available, so is the interpretation of sci-fi and fantasy elements in various groups, which allows for as much freedom as possible. As long as you can get it in the shop or it's an element established in the simple lore, you're free to use it as a new group or character. Keeping this simple and easy to understand is the key. Anyone should be able to read any guide and have a decent idea of what's happening without too much confusion or having to constantly reference other guides for a complex history they need to keep track of.
Again, that doesn't seem to be the way this conversation is going but I just get nervous because I've seen so many sites try to do some huge lore and everyone puts in so much work but things like that really aren't super effective in the long run due to continuity problems and how difficult it is to get into, no matter how interesting the base concept is.
I also agree that throwing out ideas is the best thing we can do right now! We can gather them all here and then properly vote on them to make actual decisions! There's no way with this many people that we'd actually be making decisions in a discussion chat like this tbh.
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